Hello Reader,

Have you ever thought about taking your goats hiking into the backcountry? 🐐🎒 Did you know that goats are not allowed on some public lands?

In this week’s episode, I’m joined by Chris Gifford, president of the North American Packgoat Association (NAPgA). We dive into the world of goat packing: how it works, why goats love it, and what goat owners need to know about accessing public lands.

You’ll also learn how NAPgA is working to keep trails open for goat users while encouraging responsible, science-based land use.

Whether you're new to goat packing or curious about your rights as a goat owner on public lands, this episode is filled with practical tips, fascinating history, and inspiring advocacy.

Happy listening,
​
Deborah
and the podcast team
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